"When a woman feels bad in the house, everyone feels bad"
The star of the projects "Air", "Centaur" and the new TV series "Moscow does not believe in tears" Anastasia Talyzina starred only in those films that she would watch herself as a spectator. This is probably why the role of the broken and empathic Malvina from Igor Voloshin's new film "Pinocchio" has appeared in her acting arsenal. The actress spoke about the archetype of a girl with blue hair, her attitude to horror films and her desire to play a witch in an exclusive interview with Izvestia.
"Malvina is frozen femininity in the unhealthy atmosphere of the Karabas house"
— In Alexey Tolstoy's fairy tale, in the Soviet film adaptation and cartoons, Malvina is an absolute ideal: impeccable manners, love of order and cleanliness. Does your Malvina resemble this image? Tell me about her.
— I quite often hear that Malvina is perceived as strict and perfect. Of course, I also had such an association. But when we started working on the project, we researched a lot of materials with director Igor Voloshin, and it became a discovery for me that Tolstoy was inspired by the Italian fairy tale by Carlo Collodi, where a girl with blue hair is described as a ghost.
A shot from the movie "Pinocchio"
We even played with this idea a little bit in solving the image: we added a necklace of frozen tears, a broken porcelain cup to the corset, and painted tears on the cheeks. But apart from the external details created by a huge number of incredibly talented people, it was important for me, as a performer of the role, to emphasize Malvina's fragility, sensitivity, empathy, inner fragility and, of course, unconditional — almost maternal — love for the guys, Artemon and Harlequin. For me, Malvina is a frozen femininity in the unhealthy atmosphere of the Karabas house. But, you know, when a woman feels bad in the house, everyone feels bad.
— This is a very accurate metaphor. Each character in the film has his own backstory explaining his actions. Karabas, for example, is cruel because he is an unrealized actor and director. Is Malvina's personal drama connected only with the place where she is, or does she have her own fateful story?
— You are now talking about the very kitchen of artists, when an actor can play a cameo role, but at the same time tell you 33 volumes of the backstory of his character.
A shot from the movie "Pinocchio"
Of course, Malvina has a background. We figured out that she grew up with her mom, who was a hairdresser. Hence the love of hair, makeup, and theatricality in general. There was even a moment in the movie where Malvina is ruled by Pierrot's makeup. I don't know if he stayed in the final cut. And then something happens to her mother, the girl is left alone and Karabas saves her.
— Is there a detail that you brought to Malvina personally — in the costume or in the behavior?
- yes. I brought a small purse, literally the size of my little finger. She crumbles with every touch. It seemed to me that it was vital. And that there must be a small handkerchief in it to collect tears with.
"Pierrot, of course, is unrequited in love. And Malvina loves him, but more like a younger brother."
— You are playing not just a doll, but an actress of the Carabas Theater, a kind of commedia dell'arte with vividly outlined characters. If you could choose who to play — Harlequin, Pierrot or Malvina — who would you choose?
"Harlequin." It's very bright. It's interesting to do it — these emotional, almost bipolar swings. Acting is perhaps the most fascinating thing.
The character of Harlequin, played by Ruzil Minekaev in the film "Pinocchio"
— In the classic story, there is love between Malvina and Pierrot— at least Pierrot is hopelessly in love with her. Has this line been preserved in the film? And to whom does Malvina's heart belong?
— I think Pierrot, of course, is unrequited in love. And Malvina loves him, but more like a younger brother, like a child, like a son. I don't think she's ever been romantically in love with him.
— The creators of Pinocchio often emphasize that this is not just a fairy tale, but a serious conversation about the relationship between fathers and children.
— We haven't seen the whole movie yet, but I really hope that the audience will like it. Everyone will find their own meanings in it. I would like the audience to leave the hall with a light heart, with a feeling of love, gratitude, fairy tales and magic. That was the main thing for us. We weren't shooting everyday movies, and we didn't want the audience to worry too much about serious topics. Even the saddest things, I think, should sometimes be talked about lightly. Maybe even playfully.
— If you imagine that Malvina walked off the screen and lived in the real world, what would she do? Would you be a teacher, blogger, influencer, activist?
— She would definitely be associated with beauty. Maybe I'd become a stylist or make-up artist. Theatrical skills, taking care of the guys, makeup, hair — I think she would have chosen this field.
"I would love to play some kind of witch, a negative character."
— You studied ballet until you were 14. Did this experience help in creating the image of Malvina?
— Yes, of course it helped. But I didn't even focus on it on purpose. It's not a skill that I take out of my backpack and apply at the right moment. He's already a part of me, something acquired and embedded. I don't separate myself from this experience.
Anastasia Talyzina as Malvina on the set of the film "Pinocchio"
— Correct me if I'm wrong: one of your first film projects was a horror movie. Would you like to return to this genre?
— It wasn't exactly a debut, but it was one of the first projects.
— Which genre attracts you the least? What would you definitely not like to star in?
— Probably just in horror movies. I just don't like them, I don't watch them. I'm too sensitive and impressionable. Making a movie like this may be a lot of fun, but for me it has no value. I try to participate in projects that I myself want to watch as a viewer. And I watch movies all the time, non—stop. But the horrors are definitely not mine.
— Which of the recent projects has made a strong impression on you as a viewer?
— From Russian — "Guest". And I also liked the second season of "Fisher".
— It's a pretty dark story, a thriller about maniacs.
"But not the horrors. There's a detective there, and I love him, by the way. It seems to me that this is generally the base of all girls.
— Is there an image that you haven't been offered yet, but you would really like to embody? Maybe from classical drama?
— Nothing concrete comes to mind from the classics right now. But I would love to play some kind of witch, a negative heroine.
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